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First off, many happy returns to [livejournal.com profile] latina_business!

I was tempted to make this a real post about what I've been doing the past few weeks but as I'm lazy and there's way too much to talk about, I'm putting it off.

So instead, I present some random thoughts on the upcoming Casino Royale: (more of a rant, to be honest)

What is with the 800 millionth Felix Leiter being brought back? OK, so this is theoretically pre-Licence to Kill, but still, the character had but a fairly brief appearance in the Casino Royale novel; there's no real need to reintroduce him unless he's going to actually be a continuing player in future Bond movies. But the filmmakers haven't been too kind to Leiter; wisely, they've given him a break after Licence to Kill. Leiter's role in the movie has increasingly shrunk over time (with the exception of Licence to Kill) to the point where the modern audience has no idea who the heck Leiter is. Leiter is probably Bond's closest professional friend in the literary canon, butif they're going to do a John Terry as Leiter in the Living Daylights kind of deal (Remember him? Exactly.) then they might as well get some random CIA agent named Marcus Dixon and put him on extraneous wiretapping duty. Casino Royale really isn't the best vehicle for developing the Bond/Leiter relationship.

And to a lesser extent, why are they bringing back Villiers, who's essentially the stand-in for M in For Your Eyes Only because Bernard Lee died shortly after Moonraker? Yay for the whole blast from the past thing, but it's kind of weird to do that sort of resurrection when all of the original actors are gone. I'd rather have Robinson of the Brosnan era MI6 staff come back-yeah, he's not original Fleming but he's better than the vast majority of unmemorable MI6 background staffers/allies of recent years. He'snot exactly the most recognizable of Bond's superiors-seriously, more people would probably remember General Gogol or even the Minister of Defence from the late 70's-80's.

And, um, isn't Mathis supposed to be French? Or did I just not read the book closely enough...perhaps he's Swiss/Italian?

On the note of old-school MI6 staff members-oh where oh where is MONEYPENNY?! How can you have an old school Bond movie without Moneypenny? If you can't have that character back, then the least you can do is bring in May, Bond's literary housekeeper...

And why is the only old-school Bond alumni besides Judi Dench (as M, naturally) Tsai Chin?! You probably have no idea who she is anyway-she's the Chinese girl from the pre-titles sequence of You Only Live Twice. Actually, I made an icon of her the other day from virtually the only non-screencap image of her in existence: .

Like Anthony Chinn (no relation, as far as I know of) and many other various bit part Bond alumni she's taking on a totally unrelated role in this film, as far as I can tell. If the filmmakers were trying to go for a vaguely recognizable cameo appearance, they're really targeting the diehard fans.

Though it is pretty cool that they have a relative unknown as Vesper. I must confess that I secretly hoped that Mia Maestro woul get the part-yeah, Vesper's British through and through though she can speak French "like a native," but she seemed so well-qualified for the role in acting ability as well as physical appearance (re: Fleming's description of the character). Hopefully Eva Green can act; I've never seen her in anything before.

Thank God David Arnold is laying off on the techno wall of sound approach for Casino Royale. Hopefully this film will provide him with an opportunity to show off some strong dramatic writing for the Bond/Vesper relationship, i.e. musically develop Bond's relationships and actually have the music reflect the complexities of the storyline after failing to do so for the World is Not Enough. I've always been disappointed with the lack of development of Elektra's theme from TWINE.


Edit: So much for continuity in Bond's past...the current filmmakers seem to be of the persuasion that Bond was lying to impress Moneypenny in You Only Live Twice about doing a first in Oriental languages at Cambridge. At least the website is pretty accurate to Fleming's background of Bond, although they don't seem to mention that Bond owned his first Bentley at age 7 or so!

(I just made up the age, but he was no more than a teen if we are to take Fleming literally.)

Second edit: I lied. If you look under the military records of the online dossier, it does say that he got the first in Oriental languages but also claims that he took classes at Oxford (?!)

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Date: 2006-06-21 05:50 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dragonfly66.livejournal.com
hey, *I* remeber Felix--the shark, the wife, the lighter! Hey, I even remember *old school* Felix, so don't be bitchin'. I share your hope for a good soundtrack.

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Date: 2006-06-21 06:04 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theladyrose.livejournal.com
Ah, but you are a retrotastic goddess who actually knows old school Bond. There are only three Felix Leiters I really liked: the first one, the one from Thunderball who actually has a decent amount of screen time and is kind of useful, and Felix of the shark-bitten infamy. But seriously, do you remember Living Daylights Felix? I'm afraid CR Felix will end up like TLD Felix: totally forgettable.

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Date: 2006-06-21 11:05 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] leonhart5.livejournal.com
I remember TLD Felix... although not until I looked him up. Which sorta proves your point O.o

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Date: 2006-06-22 04:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theladyrose.livejournal.com
TLD Felix might as well have been wearing a "Generic CIA ally" T-shirt for his two brief scenes. Or perhaps they could've just used the two CIA girls posing as hookers for the rest of the film instead.

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Date: 2006-06-21 02:40 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drake57.livejournal.com
Tsai Chin,the beautiful and deadly daughter of Fu Manchu in the Chris Lee Fu Manchu films.

As i understand it,Casino Royale is a re-start for the franchise and is the first film in a trilogy starring Daniel Craig as Bond (the second film is already in the works and they want it out next year).

Setting up characters in thsi film they'll use in the next two,sadly we get no Q.

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Date: 2006-06-22 04:57 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theladyrose.livejournal.com
I'm afraid I'm not very familiar with Tsai Chin's work outside of the Joy Luck Club film adaptation. Family lore says that she was a friend of my grandmother's many years ago but they've fallen out of touch.

I'm actually sort of glad that there's no Q in CR-much as I like John Cleese, he just can't hold up to the definitive (though technically not original) Q, Desmond Llewellyn. Same with Moneypenny, really, although Samantha Bond really seemed like she was hitting her stride the more Bond films she did. I wonder if they'll keep Judi Dench as M for the rest of the trilogy, then?

I didn't realize that Daniel Craig's been signed on for three films; I guess he's learned from George Lazenby. What's considered to be the original Fleming trilogy, i.e. the SPECTRE/Blofeld trilogy, of Thunderball, On Her Majesty's Secret Service, and You Only Live Twice (filmed out of order) has already been filmed, so I'm wondering if they'll be going on to the John Gardner or Raymond Benson novels next? All the Fleming literary material has been pretty much tapped unless they're willing to somehow incorporate the few short stories that haven't been touched.

Whatever the filmmakers do, I'm hoping that Casino Royale will be the modern version of the Living Daylights (following the excesses of A View to a Kill) or For Your Eyes Only (following the cheesy, over the top Moonraker) in bringing the series back down to earth and actually focus on characterization and a sensible if still fantastical plotline.

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Date: 2006-06-22 01:17 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] drake57.livejournal.com
On the two Blue Underground Fu Manchu DVDs (Blood of Fu Manchu and Castle of Fu Manchu) there are two good featurettes on the making of the films with Chris Lee and Tasi Chin,the movies are bad (what would one expect from movies made by Jesus Franco?)but the docus are good.

As i understand it after Casino Royale the next films will original content and not based on the books. I heard once they had no intention of ever using the Gardner or Benson books as film material.

What i've seen of CR,it looks good. I'm not upset about not getting Q in this one,if he comes back they'll have to re-cast,John Clesse has announced his retirement from acting.

I think we're in for a good film. :)

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Date: 2006-06-23 06:17 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] theladyrose.livejournal.com
I wonder if they're letting Purvis and Wade stay on as screenwriters, then, as they've done the last two scripts? I'm glad that the Bond films at least try to stay faithful to Fleming's material-I don't count the literary adaptations of the Brosnan films as part of the Bond novel canon.

I'm actually looking forward to CR, although it seems that they're really downplaying the climatic casino scene. Or maybe that sequence hadn't been filmed yet and thus wasn't included in the trailer. I'm really curious as how that turns out.

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